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Healing Through Frequency with Sigmar Berg- Ep. 294

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A small flute-like device that emits a 528 hertz tone could revolutionize how we think about healing, connection, and meditation. Sigmar Berg, founder of LoveTuner, joins Dr. Jade Teta to explore the fascinating science behind frequency healing and its profound implications for our wellbeing.

The conversation dives deep into the electromagnetic field of the heart, which extends 3-6 feet beyond our physical bodies and interacts with others around us. This field, measured by researchers at the HeartMath Institute, strengthens when we're in parasympathetic states—precisely what the Love Tuner helps achieve through controlled exhalation and frequency exposure.

What makes this approach particularly revolutionary is its accessibility. While traditional meditation often requires significant time and practice, biofeedback testing showed that complete beginners using the Love Tuner achieved the same brainwave patterns as experienced meditators in just six minutes rather than twenty. The audible feedback provided during exhalation helps maintain breath control while simultaneously immersing users in the healing frequency.

Perhaps most fascinating is how this frequency affects water molecules. Since our bodies are approximately 75% water (with blood being 91% water), the ability of the 528 Hz frequency to rapidly restructure water into organized patterns—similar to what's found in pristine mountain springs—suggests profound implications for cellular function and overall health. This relationship between sound, vibration, water, and healing represents an exciting frontier in our understanding of holistic wellbeing.

Try starting your day with a single tune to "set the tone," and return to this simple practice whenever anxiety arises or clarity is needed. As Sigmar reminds us: anxiety cannot exist in this frequency—darkness cannot persist in a room filled with light.

Contact Sigmar:
Website: https://www.lovetuner.com


Chapters:

00:00:00 Introduction to Sigmar and Love Tuner

00:05:42 Heart Electromagnetic Field and Frequency Science

00:09:36 Sigmar's Discovery of Frequency Meditation

00:17:18 DNA Repair and Cellular Restructuring

00:24:41 Authenticity and Heart-Centered Healing

00:32:40 Water, Frequencies, and Healing Vibratio

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Speaker 1:

Welcome everybody to the Next Level Human podcast. I am your host, dr Jay Tita. I am here with an interesting and exciting guest. This is Sigmar Berg, who is the founder of LoveTuner, and this is a device that I was very excited about because I have, as many of you know, been deep in the work of what we might call quantum metabolism for some time, and the idea of frequency and vibration actually speaking to our metabolism and speaking to our energetics has been something that has been incredibly interesting to me, and so when Sigmar's information came across my desk you know, as a podcaster, I'm oftentimes getting pitched to different people to interview, and most of the time these things are not very interesting to me, but whenever I see someone who has sort of a mission that Sigmar brings and how he stumbled into this work, I'm interested in hearing that story. And, sigmar, this is the first time you and I have met each other, so what I want to do, if you'll allow me, is just set up a little bit about Next Level Human.

Speaker 1:

Then I want to hear a bit about your story, but part of the reason I was interested in you is because, from my perspective, we humans, right, we go through these trajectories in life and we never really fully know until we arrive somewhere we can look back and go oh, this little thing here brought me here, brought me here, brought me there. And all of a sudden we end up with this very purposeful mission and, from my perspective, part of Next Level Human is tapping people into this idea that their life journeys, their history and perhaps even most importantly, their pain and their suffering, brings them to a place of understanding about what their work is on the planet, and your story seems to fall into line with this. So I obviously have a lot to say about the science of vibrations and frequencies and things like that, and we can get into that. But I first just want to hear about how you got into this work and what has been your next level human journey, and I would just love for you to start wherever you like.

Speaker 2:

Okay, hey, chet. First of all, thank you for having me on your podcast and I know your work. We talked earlier and, yeah, I think we are very aligned and that actually makes it easy for me to talk right away about our mission and what Love Tuner really is. So Love Tuner is this little device, what I'm wearing here. It's a necklace where you can do a conscious breathing break. You connect to the power of the 520 hertz frequency and, on a spiritual level, you are inviting love in your life. So this is what it does in an elevator pitch, and the cool thing for the breast work is it gives you an audible feedback. So you detach this little flute, then you do this conscious breathing break, sometimes Zoom or whatever. Google doesn't pick it up, but that's the sound, so it makes the sound. You extend your exhale as long as it feels good, as long as you can. You strengthen your lung volume, you improve your immune system and you go on this journey that we just talked about, and this is like what. I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

This is how love tuna started. So love tuna started as a love and peace mission. It was important for us to bring people together in loving harmony, and we all understand frequency and vibration. We all get it, but most of the time is our attention is to bad frequencies. So everybody's annoyed about you know, street noise, whatnot, but we never focus on. Oh, there's healing frequencies up there, and I mean now soundbaths, breast work. Everybody talks about it.

Speaker 2:

But to really understand what it does in your system, and when we talk about suffering and pain, what often is the motivation for people to even go on a spiritual journey? And when you play with frequencies it literally transforms your entire cellular level. So everything what is captured in you, and most of the time our mind, overrides the heart. But this is just not how we function. So the heart is way more powerful. We know this from the magnetic field and this is what the love you know basically does. It takes you out of your head into your heart and it allows you to open your heart. It allows all the trauma and all this stuff.

Speaker 2:

What is captured and the stuff that we struggle with in our entire life is not that. It's in our mind. We don't even know what happened. We cannot remember because our mind is not there. Our mind gives us an illusion about it and we act like this and if we want to find the answer. We will not find it on an intellectual level. We can only find those answers in our heart. So this is a journey into our heart. That's the power of our heart and understanding of the longing of our hearts that we all want to connect, because the only thing that really separates us is intellect. You know, we look at each other, we are like totally programmed, we have an opinion before we even say one word. But our hearts, they want to connect. So hearts are always curious, they pick up right away. And this is what I think is the solution or a cure for humanity and also for the individual, because you cannot heal the world or the humanity if you don't heal yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love this so much, sigmar, and, if I may, I'll just catch up the audience a little bit on some of this science that you're referring to, and so some of what SIGMAR is telling us here is that many of you may not be aware, but we have actually measured the electromagnetic field of the heart. This is a research coming out of the HeartMath Institute, some of it in other places, and the heart's electromagnetic field is the biggest one we have in the body. It extends off the body three to six feet, and it also interacts with other people's heart fields. So, as Sigmar and I would be in close proximity, we are picking up the electromagnetic fields of people, and it's actually been shown that we can sync up in this way. And so the other thing about this science is that prolonged exhales, and particularly when you're making a humming sound or, in this case, using something like the Love Tuner, is very good for the vagus nerve, which also puts us in a parasympathetic, relaxed state. That amplifies the ability for our heart and our brain to be in coherence, which increases this electromagnetic field. And so, yes, the long, slow exhale, but add in humming, or adding in a frequency like a 528 hertz, theoretically and this part has not yet been studied. But we certainly know that this electromagnetic field is basically enhanced when we're in parasympathetic, relaxed, loving, coherent spaces, and we also know that these frequencies can bring us there and it essentially connects us, most importantly, but also connects us to ourselves, most importantly, but also connects us to other humans, and so there is a really interesting science here that I am interested in. We can go further into how frequencies affect the DNA and the mitochondria and molecules in general.

Speaker 1:

But tell me how you discovered this, because you and I were talking briefly before we popped on live and you were telling me a little bit about how you had been into meditation, but something about tuning into frequencies while meditating. It's interesting Sigmar was telling me way back before Wim Hof was a thing and people were jumping in cold baths. He was doing this way back, same with me. You know, I'm going back to like 1997, 98, 99 now, when I first entered medical school contrast hydrotherapy, you know, cold plunges. But I was not, sigmar, into meditation and frequencies the way you were. So walk us through how you made this discovery. I'm curious your next level, human journey, how you got here.

Speaker 2:

So like, as I said earlier, like I was already into meditation and I had a pretty stressful business before and it was a great, great thing for me to meditate. So I discovered it. So and I always say, like you know, if you want to talk to God, go outside. Nature listens, you know. So it's a good thing. So I always did this, but I never, like, really consciously meditated. And breast work was for me, something that came through a sport. What I did when I was a teenager, all the way through high school, I was a swimmer and it's all about breathing. And with this breathing, especially when you swim like 1,500 meters and stuff like this, you go in a meditative state of mind Absolutely. And when I did this meditation, so a couple of years after I started meditating, I did a guided meditation with breast work and we have been listening to 520 hertz and it was something that was more powerful than anything that I ever experienced. And this is actually what started the whole Loftuner idea to make it into a product. And in my prior career I was a designer. So this all came together and I was really but but bring it to the point, it was something where we saw that it's so simple you know it was. It was way easier than how to learn meditate. It was way easier than just sitting in, uh, in a meditation or even to do a sound bath. And what I? I recognized back then and this is not what I tell people to shortcut their meditation. But love tuning is a shortcut to meditation.

Speaker 2:

We tested this. We did it with a bioresonance feedback machine. We tested 20 people doing meditation, transcendental meditation, people that have been meditating for many years, and then we had 20 people that never had a clue about anything, never did breast work, never meditated, and obviously no clue about the 520 hertz frequency. And we did it both groups. Then we tested the bioresonance feedback, the brain waves, and the results have been identically. The only difference was the meditation took 20 minutes and laugh tuning, depending on the exhale, was about six minutes, and this was actually what I felt when I did it the first time with this frequency. And so and this started actually a journey I mean little did I know that. The 528 hertz, all the benefits of this frequency, all the so-called conspiracy what is not a conspiracy, why this frequency even disappeared? Because it's not a man-made frequency, it's a cosmic frequency. It's also called the divine frequency, the love frequency or, as you mentioned, the DNA repair frequency, because frequencies can really repair our DNA and the more you do it it restructures your cellular level. And this was actually the beginning of the journey. This is now many years ago.

Speaker 2:

At the beginning we did mainly foundational work. We supported from whatever underprivileged children, we did school programs, and then we went on and on and on and now it's became my mission because I really recognize, also in the seminars that we did, how people recognize, like complete strangers, when you show them the power of the heart and what you just said. With the HeartMath Institute I proved many times how fire goes out of your body. This magnetic field proved many times how fire goes out of your body, this magnetic field. And when you are that sensitive and with the love, you can get this awareness because on top of it, after a magnetic field of the heart, the frequency itself goes out of your body about eight feet. So as soon as you tune with someone, you connect into this frequency field and then you understand the power of the heart.

Speaker 2:

And we did this often in seminars where people literally learned people how to feel this magnetic field, because you feel it unless you're not aware and this is when we understand this that we are so connected and that it's all about unity, because humanity is about unity. And if you get this heart awareness, you can overcome polarity. And this is basically what we want to achieve. We want to bring it together in loving togetherness. And if you get this awareness, then you understand that we're all one and all is one, so you cannot separate it anyway, and the separation causes the suffering and it's a very I mean I say this like in very simple words for everybody to get it, but that's really what it is Get out of your head, get into your heart and make heartfelt decisions, because this is what really will lift us up, and this has nothing to do with intellect. That's really who we are, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love this idea because obviously I lead groups and a lot of my work is in using breath work and altered states of consciousness and meditation to change the underlying stories that keep people stuck in their suffering. And I love the idea of this because what you're basically pointing to is sort of a shortcut. Let's face it, meditation can be pretty tough. So like if I imagine this for the listener if you're sitting outside, let's say in a park, and you had no music and you're trying to, you know, focus and meditate and you're hearing all these sounds let's say you're in Central Park in New York City and you're hearing cars, beep and other things versus you're hearing all these sounds. Let's say you're in Central Park in New York City and you're hearing cars, beep and other things, versus you're sitting in a mountain and you're just hearing nature sounds. Versus basically having music pumped in, versus certain frequencies of music and, in this case, being able to bring this wherever you go.

Speaker 1:

One of the things that I do whenever I'm out and about and need to calm myself when I travel or things like that and I don't have headphones is I will do a very gentle hum, almost as a way to let my body vibrate, but not so loud that everybody hears me.

Speaker 1:

So think about being in a waiting room for your airplane getting ready to take off.

Speaker 1:

In the airport there's this sort of murmur going on, this kind of stuff. You can generate this sort of long, slow exhalation and bring in this frequency. I really like the idea of bringing in this love tune, or the other thing that's really interesting is that breathing almost through that straw, right where you essentially it forces you to slow down and breathe a particular way that pushes you even more into a parasympathetic state. So this device that you have is about the size of a straw, so it's doing a lot of different things, but it is tapping you in to this frequency. So it is an interesting thing meditating without sound, meditating with music and then meditating with a humming frequency or a particular frequency which, by the way, the humming frequency is not exactly the same as what Sigmar is speaking to here, but this seems to supercharge the meditation, and what you're telling us is that these individuals are able to get there even novice meditators, within six minutes, based on this small little study that you all did.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know what you just said is like when you blow through this whatever. You call it a single tone flute, we call it a single tone flute. The audible feedback is so important for your breast work Because you know you can breathe through whatever you have and you can do whatever breast work you learned, but this gives you an audible feedback. So as soon as your exhale is not consistent or it drops a little bit, the tone changes. So you know exactly, inhale through the mouth again and do it again, so, so and over time it strengthens your lung volume and I mean, I don't have to tell you, but maybe for your listeners breath is the biggest regulator we have and it's our best friend through our entire lifetime. When we come into this world, we inhale. The last thing we do when we leave is we exhale. And if we understand the power of breath and if we know how to regulate it and getting us out of their fight and flight mode, what is an wiring that we maybe don't even need in our society anymore and we go more into sympathetic nervous system and make better decisions, because that's what it's all about.

Speaker 2:

You know everything that we you know like tell people or what you do with your groups. It's about the education, about believing in yourself. It's all about empowerment. It's not like oh, let's call the doctor, let's go to the therapist, let's talk about it, because therapy spoken therapy is actually a reminder of what went wrong. You know, because it becomes your mantra. You tell it over and over again. It will not go away. The only one that is happy is the therapist, because you keep on coming back. And in my mission, the most important thing is to really remind people that authenticity is the only way to wholeness. So if you understand yourself and if you are aware of who you are and have an authentic lifestyle and communicate authentic, then this will make you happy. And this is also when we talk about the scale of frequencies.

Speaker 1:

If we talk, you know love is the highest frequency, but you can only achieve the love frequency if you're really authentic, because authenticity is the most important thing, because everything what comes after is relative when it's not authentic yeah, we're getting into some really deep stuff now that I want to unpack this for the listener because from my perspective, let's kind of go back to this idea of you know, sigmar is alluding to this idea that we we carry sort of um, these erroneous. They're deep in our subconscious and so when you go see a therapist right, it's not that there's anything wrong with therapy, but it's a very logical process. There are some therapies and therapy is getting much better where you can drop down into this subconscious state. And I love what you're saying here, sigmar, because I believe the subconscious wounding I call it misguided unconscious decisions Acronym is MUD. We get stuck in the MUD. These are misguided because they occur at times in our childhood and our teenage years and our adulthood where we didn't have the knowledge, the experience, the know-how, the maturity to deal with what happens. And, by the way, this is going on all the time. If you have a health scare, if you have a financial scare, if you're dealing with betrayal or a breakup or rejection or something like that, it's always this misguided unconscious decision that points to this, you know, sort of underlying subconscious need for safety and security and acceptance and belonging and freedom and autonomy and ultimately, to me, this is pushing us to when we own these things.

Speaker 1:

When we go and we look and we find these misguided, unconscious stories that we've told in our lives and we own them through radical ownership. You know, sort of this idea of like I will take this and integrate it in a way that is authentic to my story and then use it for good, right, like, instead of being the victim. You talked about this idea of overly identifying with these wounds. That's what most people are doing, and, of course, we must be the victim for a time to heal, but we can't get stuck in victim. And when we get stuck in victim, now these stories are dominating sort of our lives. But what we must do to heal is own them and tell our authentic story of struggle in my mind. So this is where this authenticity piece that I love that you brought comes up.

Speaker 1:

However, that can be difficult, given the culture that we live in, and so we have tools, things that can actually help drop us down into the subconscious. This, to me, is where breath work live in, and so we have tools, things that can actually help drop us down into the subconscious. This, to me, is where breath work comes in. This, to me, is where meditation comes in. This is, to me, where you know other modalities. We can even include plant medicines in this, and certainly, when you turn on a 432 Hertz or a 528 Hertz or some of this healing Hertz music, you can drop into these states much more easily, get in touch with some of this healing hurts music. You can drop into these states much more easily, get in touch with some of this erroneous programming and begin to break the cycle, and so I love tools like this.

Speaker 1:

What I would love for you to do is walk us through how you're actually using this in your meditations and, if you don't mind, I'll briefly, just for the audience, just say when we're doing these meditations in. And if you don't mind, I'll briefly, just for the audience, just say when we're doing these meditations. In my groups, one of the things we do is take a big inhale, just in the simplest way. Then we do a long, slow, controlled exhale, often with a hum, and this could take six to eight to 10 to maybe even 12 seconds or longer, depending on how conditioned you are. And I'm imagining, sigmar, that this is similar to perhaps what you're doing here, except you're using the love tuner on the exhale. Is that how this works?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. So the love tuner can do two things you can either use it before meditation or after, and it can even replace meditation. So I have a lot of people that meditate literally while they're tuning. And the main thing is because the breath work, you know, makes you arrive in the here and now, and then you connect to this frequency and this opens up a completely new dimension, and you do all this by yourself. You become, by using this thing and making the tone and exhaling through the left, you become an instrument. Your entire body is vibrating and the exhale is depending on your condition. As you said, it's anywhere between whatever 10, 15 seconds. We have a professional surfer, a big wave surfer. He has the record right now it's one minute 20 seconds exhale. I mean that's crazy, because the guy can stay on the water for five minutes. So just to get a relation, so if you do 30 seconds exhale, one minute exhale, you're already pretty good and it really helps you, not only on a physical level but the relaxation that happens and this kind of state of trance we are going to, and this kind of state of trance we are going to. This is exactly where you can tap into every cellular wounding that you have.

Speaker 2:

And when I said earlier spoken, therapy is not good, I don't tell anybody, stop your therapy. Like a tool, like breast work or sound healing, or in this case, the love tuner, can become an anchor, a reminder. You know, whatever they learn in a seminar, whatever they do in a group session, this thing goes with them and in any time when they connect, they connect right into your class, for example. They are right there. They remember what you told him. They will remember what the therapist told them, you know.

Speaker 2:

But I think straightforward communication is not the healer anymore. You know, this is old school and it's not where it's going. This goes very close to our Western medical system to talk about it and take some pills and hopefully you get better it. And take some pills and hopefully you get better, but you, you will never heal, you know, because you're closing your heart and and you can only heal from inside out. And I mean if, if we look too much on the outside. Um, as carl jung said it and it's one of my favorite quotes he said if you look on the outside, you're a dreamer. If you go inward, you awaken. And I think this, this, this is the way to go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that thought and I'll tell you why I was interested in this because I love your idea of becoming the instrument. Obviously, I tend to do the Bramari breath or the hum, but listening to music alone is really interesting because sometimes what I'll do is I'll put my speaker on my floor or when I'm in a cold bath I'll have 528 Hertz and the tub kind of vibrates. But you sent me one of these and I got this and I was doing I usually do Bramari breath, but I love what you're saying about turning you into the instrument. You feel a different level of vibration with this thing than you would when you are just listening to music and, by the way, music's fine, everyone starts where they want to start. I think this is just another way to really tune in. That's why I like the idea of this thing to becoming sort of the frequency you feel, your body resonating at that.

Speaker 1:

And, if you don't mind, I just want to cover a little bit of the science here, like one of the things to understand, because a lot of people who listen to this podcast are very much into metabolism. One of the understandings about metabolism is this sort of lock and key mechanism, right? So if you have one molecule that's this shape, right, you know, and then another molecule comes along like a lock and a key and fits it, and that this is supposed to create what goes on in the body, and this is certainly happening. However, what we have not realized is that these two molecules just floating around in the interstitial fluid and finding each other is going to be pretty cumbersome and take much longer than what our bodies are actually doing, and so one of the things that people who study metabolism has thought for a long time is how is the body so efficient in this way?

Speaker 1:

And one of the things that they show is that water in particular forms these coherent domains and exclusion zones that help the molecules sort of find each other, and there's a vibration that is happening here, and that music and mitochondria and different molecules are actually operating on a vibrational level rather than just a lock and key phenomena.

Speaker 1:

So now introduce a particular hertz, almost like a, a tuning fork, and now some of these molecules can line up with that tune, and with a 528 hertz, what we've seen is that it does seem to have impact on DNA and certain molecules, and so we're entering a whole new sort of understanding of medicine where metabolism is not just lock and key. Yes, it happens that way, but it also is perhaps working through water, which is a conductor of these frequencies, and also working through these vibration of these molecules. So I don't know if you have anything you want to say about that or add to that, but I just wanted to throw this in to let people know there's a really interesting emerging science. I write about this a lot on my sub stack in this domain that I'm fascinated with yeah, I mean, I can like.

Speaker 2:

You're absolutely right, first of all, and water was actually when we started developing this instrument. There was one book and it was, I think was called the hidden messages in water, from a moto and, and he exposed water to different frequencies, to different sounds and even to prayers or to swearing or like whatever hate and um. And water reacts right away, so it captures memories, first of all. And second of all, it reacts so and we are like 75% water. Our blood is 91% water, so we are totally like a resonance machine filled with fluid. And when we understand this, so everything that comes towards us, we either feel open to it or it shocks us.

Speaker 2:

And when you listen to classical music, the original classical music, like Mozart, this music actually restructures water. The musical scale got changed, like in the 1930s, finally, where the A-tone went down from 444 hertz to 440. And this brings us in dissonance. I mean, you know, like John Lennon wrote, imagine what is still the most famous love and peace song in the world in 528 hertz. So he raised up the A-tone, so he knew what he's doing, but coming back to water, and the reaction was 528 hertz.

Speaker 2:

We have a test on our homepage. We even have pictures there. So we put a seamless emote, we put water under a microscope, we start tuning it and within 30 seconds a water from a tap, what is not structured becomes fully structured, like a mountain spring water. It goes back in the original hexagonal shape and so now you can imagine, we are like, as I said, over 70% water. When you tune and you're exposed to this frequency, this vibration, because you become the instrument, it restructures your water molecules in your body, it gets rid of these clusters and this gives you, on a physical level, the feeling of relaxation.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that is fascinating. I totally want to look into what you have on your website there. I can tell you another really interesting study that I did podcast it on here recently is Fung et al. In 2023, this group of researchers out of China took petri dishes of human kidney cells and put words in opaque envelopes underneath them in a double-blind fashion, and then, before they did this, they exposed these cells to hydrogen peroxide, which damaged them, and then they basically had different words, some positive, some negative underneath these Petri dishes. And then they looked to see in a double-blind, placebo-controlled fashion or a double-blind fashion, rather okay. What were the effects on these Petri dishes? And the Petri dishes that had these positive words showed increased growth, increased ATP production and decreased reactive oxygen species in these Petri dishes. And, of course, the theory is well, how is this happening? Are these kidney cells reading the words? Obviously not the words, obviously not. But somehow the intention behind those words words like Buddha and love and kindness and other words like hate and destruction and other things are having an impact here.

Speaker 1:

Now, as someone who's been evidence based his whole life with studies like this, I always go OK, like I'm going to reserve some a little bit of judgment, but it's funny, you brought up Emoto's studies on water.

Speaker 1:

Until I saw the Fung studies and some of the stuff that Beta Austin is doing with freezing water and exposing it to different things, I kind of regarded that as like sort of you know junk science or pseudoscience. Now I'm opening up to the idea that, okay, there's something going on here and, of course, when we start understanding how water has these exclusion zones and these coherent domains that we now know are forming, that's different than you know just the vapor state and the liquid state and the you know sort of ice state, it's really some interesting stuff, especially now when you add in you know vibrations. So I'm very, very intrigued with these ideas and have been looking into them. So I'm definitely going to check out that idea. Have you done anything else with this? I'm curious what stories you've had with people in terms of, you know, mental states, mood, you know changing the mood. Obviously, we know meditation in general and breathwork in general can do this stuff, but I'm wondering what else have you seen and what other stories are you seeing?

Speaker 2:

And so we have seen some really crazy stories, some a little bit too hocus pocus here that it would hurt my reputation. So I'm not mad that this really happened. But what we saw is like at the very beginning was love, Tina, you know, when you come out with a product, you have friends. Friends, you have whatever. You have kind of a reputation already. So people will never tell you the truth, they will not say, ah, what's that? You know?

Speaker 2:

So the first thing we did we went into schools and we started tuning with kids and it was all elementary school, mainly between eight and ten years old. And you go in there you have 30 to 40 kids and then comes a guy with a love tune, a whistle. You know people go like, oh well, so I didn't know what's going to happen. And those kids in no time picked it up, tuned and the results have been extreme. So we had within not even a year, we did it for a year in every school. Then some of the schools continued doing it because the teachers have been totally open to it. But what happened is in the first semester we got rid of bullying, the grades went up and the kids got a different feeling of togetherness. So you know you have in the class, you have like this group and that group and whatnot, and not that they became the best friends, the kids that haven't been friends before. But they understood we're in the same classroom, we talk the same thing, we have the same thing going on, and it was interesting from all those schools we got like little booklets at the end of this trial that we did for a year and every kid wrote a note and it was so cool they said because of the love tune, I know what to do when I feel anxiety.

Speaker 2:

I mean, this comes from an 80 year old one, really so.

Speaker 2:

And this is when it made sense to me, because we are all like, educated, we know what we are doing, and on the other hand, we are also very stupid, because what you are doing, you know alternative medicine, you know functional medicine, we swallow it and we have no understanding what is in there.

Speaker 2:

We have no understanding what it does and we're even going in there with oh wow, the side effects is like a page long, really, and we still do it. So it's more what happens to us and what happened to us that we got overwritten our natural understanding of healing, because the body can heal everything you know, and if we know how to do it right, of healing because the body can heal everything you know and if we know how to do it right and that's the most interesting thing for me that we trust medication, no matter what, but stuff, what is natural, we question it. Yeah, and I think this is what what it needs people like you to educate more and more, that they get open to it and then healing starts yeah, and you know it's funny, it's when you really think about it.

Speaker 1:

You sit down and think about what we're talking about. Sigmar, it's not actually that outlandish, right? We all know if we go outside and we sit on a park bench and we hear birds sing, this can calm us. We know, by the way, that research shows that They've shown things like bird song for ADHD and humming bees calming people's moods. And just going for a walk, you know, lowering cortisol, being out in nature has health benefits. The sounds of nature have health benefits.

Speaker 1:

You know, focusing on breathing brahmari breath and humming breath, like all these things, are very simple things that when you think about it, you go, yeah, of course, no duh. However, whereas we used to be able to have that accessible to us and no one thought anything about it, we now have a lot of other things in our lives that can cause dysregulation and disharmony. So, for me, I do very much like very simple tools that can bring us back into harmony very quickly, and I love this idea of the children having this unique sort of way to tap back into their hearts and away from the sympathetic sort of dysregulation that can happen when you're a kid. You know, trying to learn, trying to manage stuff at home. Like we all know that, no matter how good our childhood upbringing was, we all have some things that happened to us as kids or teenagers that were a little tough, and wouldn't it have been nice it doesn't mean it would completely have saved us, perhaps, but wouldn't it have been nice if someone had told us here's how you can regulate, here's how you can understand how to regulate your emotions and tap in.

Speaker 1:

This honestly, sigmar, is why I like tools like this. I really appreciate what you are doing and, yeah, I'm a fan. I want to give you a chance to just follow up with any other things you want people to know or any other things you want to cover before we end, but I do want to say you know, really thank you for your work and thank you for bringing something really simple, you know that we can tap into. I think it's great and I think it's needed more now than ever.

Speaker 2:

Hey, jade, thank you so much. I really appreciate your show and thank you for having me here. But I would like to say one thing at the very end, and this is like really start trusting yourself, because everyone has an intuition and the more you use it, the clearer your channel gets and the more you can answer a lot of questions yourself. And I think that's the beginning of a journey in a spiritual way, but also in a healing way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and before I let you go, one thing for me, since I have this device and I've been playing with it, what's the best way? In my meditations with this device right now, what I'm doing is I've essentially replaced I do sort of a stimulating breath first with some sort of stimulating music, and I've been shutting the music off and then essentially taking this device and putting it in place of my Bramari exhale. So what I do is just take a big inhale and then a long, slow exhale blowing through the device. And I repeat that, and I've been going anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes with this as in place of what I was doing, sort of with the Bramari breath. And it is interesting because it does force me that's another thing I kind of like it does force me to regulate my breath in a very different way. But just before I let you go, is this do you recommend using it this way? Are there other ways that I should be trying to use it?

Speaker 2:

No, I think you do a great job, especially the more you tune. The longer you tune, the better the effects. But I always tell people one thing, and this is very important when you wake up in the morning, have it somewhere close to your nightstands and even if you say good morning to your beloved ones, or even if you're by yourself, make a tune because it will set the tone of the day when you're not even really awake. Make one long exhale and just the tone, and then later on I do it every time when I go on a run or on a dog walk in the morning I stop somewhere and I do a conscious breathing break, like whatever five to 10 minutes, whatever feels good. You should do at least six cycles. This is what we recommend.

Speaker 2:

Inhaling through the nose, exhaling through the tuna, and then during the day it's great every time when something comes up and you know, even if we are not stressed out, but life gets so fast sometimes and when anxiety comes up or when you feel like something is going on, just take a tuning break, go outside I mean even if you're in an office building go to the bathroom, go outside for a minute or two, do three cycles and you come back way more relaxed, way more balanced. And it doesn't do your job, but it gives you a different perspective and it will take away anxiety. For one reason not only the breast work, but darkness cannot exist in a room of light, and the same thing as anxiety cannot exist in this frequency. That's proven.

Speaker 1:

I love that so much. Sigmar, thank you for taking the time. Thank you for your work. I wish you the best. Where can people learn more about you? Where can they get this device if they want to Just give us an idea of where they can get in touch with you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the best thing is on our homepage so we ship all over the United States free shipping. It's lovetunercom. And if people are really interested in more about in general frequency also also fat share frequencies, spiritual laws I wrote a book. It's called One Journey, the Love Tuner book. It's available on Amazon and it's it's an easy read and it gives you a very profound knowledge about frequencies in general.

Speaker 1:

Perfect. I appreciate you. My friend, do me a favor, stay on the line. I just want to make sure we can get this all uploaded, just fine. But for all of you, thank you for hanging out with me and Sigmar, and we will see you at the next episode. Thank you, chad.